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Everything Was Beautiful, And Nothing Hurt

Mirrors, and children, and Moments - moments!!!!! - with consciences, and pictures, and children, and batty humor, and "It was the horse!" and Clara's tears, and No More, and "It wasn't locked," and Of Course He's The Doctor, and sluggish ravens, and Us In A Scarf, and Zygons foreshadowing and mirroring and becoming us, and us becoming them, and Zygons mattering and The Curator, and children, and elegance, and the little fairy that lived in the corner of that damned box making it so much bigger on the inside, and four empty teacups on a table in an art gallery below a bas-relief of roundels, and shattered glass, and peace treaties, and children, and a Wolf, a magnificent and beautiful Wolf, and a teacher and Coal Hill School, and children, and knives in the heart (I lied about nothing hurting) and love, so much love, so much love ....

Don't you change it, not one minute.

Except of course, he did. And god bless him for doing it.

I'm going to bed. More when I'm coherent, and can wipe this damned smile off my face. God, my cheeks hurt ....






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robling_t
Nov. 24th, 2013 05:20 am (UTC)
Basically I am still at "ALL THE FEELS" when I think about it. (With a small side order of trying to pick at whether the Zygons ended up being kind of a tangent to the actual business at hand, but I can live with it.) I, um... FEELS, yeah. FEEEEEELS.
kaffyr
Nov. 24th, 2013 05:50 pm (UTC)
(With a small side order of trying to pick at whether the Zygons ended up being kind of a tangent to the actual business at hand, but I can live with it.)

Aha, but I realized that the Zygons are actually very necessary thematically to the whole thing. Not only do they mirror the central thematic message - that sometimes an adversary, whether a person or situation, doesn't mandate battle, defeat or negative consequences - but they fit in quite well plot wise.

I think that The Curator had a hand in making sure Queen Elizabeth had access to Gallifreyan paintings for the Time War-stranded Zygons to get in to. That ensured that Eleven would be called in to investigate when they broke out, because such paintings would have been kept in a Black Archive after the Queen's death. (I'm only glad that they weren't burned as witchcraft, or that Torchwood didn't get their hands on them.)

In fact, I'm rather certain that Gallifrey Falls No More was painted by The Curator back when he was ... well, never mind.

but perhaps The Curator had a hand in that, too. And who knows? Maybe he even let the Zygons know it was time for them to get out. He obviously had enough pull to get into the Black Archive ....)
hawkmoth
Nov. 24th, 2013 06:42 pm (UTC)
And how appropriate that the Space-Time Telegraph made its first key appearance in "Terror of the Zygons?" (Well, leading in from the previous episode...)
kaffyr
Nov. 25th, 2013 04:15 am (UTC)
See, now I have to go back and watch "Terror of the Zygons." After I've finished watching "Day of the Doctor" again, of course. Maybe twice. Heh.

Edited at 2013-11-25 04:15 am (UTC)
robling_t
Nov. 25th, 2013 05:19 am (UTC)
Mm, for me it's sort of a... overall structural thing? Like I kept feeling "But, but, there's something interesting going on over there, why are you showing us this bit instead?" I get the same feeling with "Vincent and the Doctor" and the Gryffaeus (...I have no idea in hell how to spell that, LOL), FWIW; the material may belong there thematically, but the way it's being presented is actually taking away from its own point -- they had this intricate psychological drama going on and they kept stopping to throw chairs at special effects. DW did used to do straight-up historicals, back in the day...

And the Curator didn't paint "Gallifrey Falls No More", he had Da Vinci do it. We just have to x-ray it to see whether it says 'this is a fake' in sharpie under the paint... ;)
hawkmoth
Nov. 24th, 2013 11:21 am (UTC)
Of course, if you think about it, that's the way it ALWAYS happened, and only now can Eleven realize that.

Right?
kaffyr
Nov. 24th, 2013 05:58 pm (UTC)
I think everything hung in the balance while their three hands were together. Remember what Nine said in the Cardiff Cellar, and what Eleven has always said - time can be rewritten. It truly was a nexus in flow of Time. It could have gone either way, and this was a nexus where either choice would have worked. The only immutable part of the fixed moment was that Gallifrey and the Daleks had to go. It didn't matter how. So it was either button, or not-button, and the Moment worked as hard as it could to convince the Doctor that not-button was the way to go.

Hammm ... fixed moment. A Moment with a conscience is certainly a "fixed" Moment, wouldn't you agree?
hawkmoth
Nov. 24th, 2013 06:43 pm (UTC)
And speaking of the moment, I had a few more thoughts about that in my most recent post!

Edited at 2013-11-24 06:43 pm (UTC)
kaffyr
Nov. 25th, 2013 04:21 am (UTC)
I shall have to wander over there!
namarie24
Nov. 24th, 2013 03:27 pm (UTC)
It was SO very awesome! I loved pretty much every minute of it, and I want to rewatch it many, many times.

So much joy, so much delight, so much continuity, so much powerful emotion... oh, I loved it.
kaffyr
Nov. 24th, 2013 06:04 pm (UTC)
I, too, will be re-watching it many, many times. I had very few worries going in, but even my high expectations were bettered - the joy with which it was infused grew so gradually and burst upon the story so magnificently and so unexpectedly that it was all the more sweet.
heatherbelles
Nov. 24th, 2013 05:41 pm (UTC)
Oh, I loved it, and it held up well to seeing it on the big screen. It was a blast.

Have you seen the Five-ish Doctors reboot? So funny...
kaffyr
Nov. 24th, 2013 06:07 pm (UTC)
Oh definitely - it was fantastic to see on the big screen. Went with my family and we geeked out with glee.

Then we came homem and saw the Five-ish Doctors. It was perfect, too; they did that advanced, sophisticated form of high embarrassment humor that I think you folks on the right side of the Atlantic do better than anyone in the world. And Uncle Rusty at the end ... he and The Moff both know how to make fun of themselves, which is just wonderful.
azalaisdep
Nov. 24th, 2013 09:33 pm (UTC)
Finally got to watch it - I thought it was very, very sweet. (And hilarious.)

But oh, Tom Baker. That brought such a lump to my throat. My Doctor, the Doctor of my childhood... is old now.
kaffyr
Nov. 25th, 2013 04:18 am (UTC)
But oh, Tom Baker. That brought such a lump to my throat.

That's when my BB cried, too. Tom was his Doctor as well. While he has never been my Doctor, it was very special to have him there, very important. The Curator had an important part to play in the story, as well, so that made it all the more poignant.
a_phoenixdragon
Nov. 25th, 2013 01:24 am (UTC)
OMG...ALL OF THIS. ALL OF IT!!

He really doesn't do well when you make it easy, does he? Clever clogs...all of them. And Moffat!! Genius!! Perfect 50th Celebration!!

Of course, the 25th was most marvelous, too...and this took it straight to the stratosphere!!

*HUGS*
kaffyr
Nov. 25th, 2013 04:19 am (UTC)
Perfect 50th Celebration!!

I kept thinking I'd wake up today and start finding faults, but no, it's still perfect. Absolutely gorgeous.

*Hugs right back*
clocketpatch
Nov. 25th, 2013 04:45 am (UTC)
I loved it all to pieces.
kaffyr
Nov. 25th, 2013 04:52 am (UTC)
Yup. It was written with love and brought to fruition with love - just wonderful.
mack_the_spoon
Nov. 25th, 2013 05:47 am (UTC)
When my biggest complaint is a bit of annoyance that the asthmatic character doesn't use her inhaler correctly - and no one on TV or in movies ever does - that's really small potatoes.

Especially compared to just how thrilled I was throughout. It was magical.
kaffyr
Nov. 26th, 2013 11:15 pm (UTC)
When my biggest complaint is a bit of annoyance that the asthmatic character doesn't use her inhaler correctly - and no one on TV or in movies ever does - that's really small potatoes.

Heh - I don't think even think I use my own inhaler correctly.

And magical is exactly the word for it!
radiolaires
Nov. 25th, 2013 07:56 pm (UTC)
It was fun! Moffat really nailed it in terms of celebration. And he literally resurrected the show. Mad man with a pen.
the little fairy that lived in the corner of that damned box making it so much bigger on the inside This put a big silly smile on my face...
kaffyr
Nov. 26th, 2013 11:16 pm (UTC)
Hee. I'm glad you liked that little phrase.

And I still want to high-five Moffat for this wonderful episode!
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