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Only a Few More Hours

At last it's only a few more hours for us; I'm rushing around trying to make the place a little neater, and dashing off for jammie dodgers and such (hush; I know they were Eleventy's, and I have no idea whether the Twelfth Doctor will like them at all, but still ... traditions!)

My rewatch so far has only gotten me up to Hide, which I love, and have watched several times, and I should therefore probably skip it. I discovered that Cold War was so much better on rewatch that it was a little unsettling. The Ice Warrior didn't seem silly to me upon second viewing; the plot made more sense; Clara was much more clearly defined for me, and I got a sense of what her personality was like under all the quips and machine-gun vocal delivery. Far, far better than I had remembered. I'd put it at a solid personal B.

I also discovered, or rediscovered, that The Rings of Ahkaten is purely awful, a sodden mess of almost completely bad writing - filled with unsuccessful attempts to tie themes together, said attempts failing at everything except turning potentially interesting ideas into boring dead ends -  and ridiculous-even-for-Who skiffy science.  (Yes, by all means, let's turn out the sun, the only thing that keeps living things warm in the absolute cold of airless space, so that 7 million beings will freeze to death; oh, and let's scoot around an asteroid belt on a ... a ... motorbike of some sort. In the vacuum. Where there's no air. Oh, and let's have an evil sun whose look is more "cute Jack-o-lantern" than "psychopathic parasitic emotions vampire." And why do Who writers like making suns homicidal? They did it with "42" with about the same quality result. But I digress, and I trust you get my gist.)

And yet, there are parts of it that I love; his speech, of course; and the singing; and the color scheme. But when that's all that I can love about the story, it leaves me bemused as to why it's one of the episodes that somehow mysteriously turns up on the "I like it" side of my ledger. I just don't understand myself sometimes.
All of this means that if I can get one or two more episodes in before we have the premier of S08, I'll be lucky. But that's OK; I can watch the others later. I'll focus on meeting a new Doctor at this point. Yes. I'm rather excited.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ....

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carbonel
Aug. 23rd, 2014 10:50 pm (UTC)
I just finished watching the end of season 6, because for some reason I'd stopped watching them in real time back in 2012, and the first part of season 7. I'd pretty much inferred what happened from comment people made that I couldn't avoid, so I wasn't too crushed.

Now embarking on the rather longer portion of season 7, with Clara -- after I get back from dinner.
kaffyr
Aug. 24th, 2014 04:08 am (UTC)
I'd be interested in hearing what you think about Clara; I've been trying to get to know her through my rewatch. Still missing Eleven, but, without spoilers, I can say that I am pleased with Twelve.
carbonel
Aug. 25th, 2014 08:06 pm (UTC)
After just a few episodes, my main opinion is that Clara seems awfully like Amelia, barring the whole growing up with the memory of the Raggedy Man thing. Perky, mouthy, and intrepid.

Of course, there's all those hints being dropped her being (yet can't be) someone he's known before, but I'll wait for that to be explained.
a_phoenixdragon
Aug. 24th, 2014 01:39 am (UTC)
Loved Cold War. Very chilling (pardon the pun) and I'm one of the few that despises Akhaten. Just. NO. Usually skip through that one to get to the best bits. Though I do love a few things about it. The references to Susan for one. Because we just saw a One eppie recently where he mentioned the bazaar. Not WHERE. But it was mentioned - and him going there with Susan to show her different cultures, etc. So. Good things about the eppie. But not enough to make me rewatch. Which is...amazing. So there is ONE episode I will not suffer through with Eleven. The acting was 100% - but the story lacked a lot and I felt BAD for the actors. Giving 110% to such a terrible, shoddy storyline.

*HUGS*

Sorry...offa the soapbox now!! SO READY FOR NEW WHO!!

ThoughIwillmissmyEleventy...
kaffyr
Aug. 24th, 2014 04:10 am (UTC)
Giving 110% to such a terrible, shoddy storyline.

Yes!! This!! Even the little girl who played Merry acted her heart out in what was essentially a thankless role. So why do I keep going back to it, at least in my head? I was joking with BB the other day that it was, indeed, the color scheme. Heh.

And oh, I miss him too. Can't we have two Doctors? Let's have a two-Doctor season, with Eleven and Twelve becoming a team! (Because I have decided that I do indeed like Capaldi's Twelve, so I can't wish him uncreated.)

a_phoenixdragon
Aug. 24th, 2014 05:43 am (UTC)
Must be...gorgeous sets, I'll say that, lol!!

RIGHT?! OMG...need that!! That would be..yeah. I'm still undecided. But then, I always am with a new Doctor.

*HUGS*
ladymercury_10
Aug. 24th, 2014 03:03 am (UTC)
I liked "Hide" and "Cold War," especially the recurring "Hungry Like the Wolf" joke. But hahaha yes, "The Rings of Akhaten" makes no sense. I remember trying to explain to someone that I had just watched a show in which a sun god from space was defeated by a maple leaf, and how absurd that was. :P

Also I still don't understand how Eleven fed the sun his memories and still retained said memories. But then again if Doctor Who made sense reliably it would probably lose a bit of its charm.
kaffyr
Aug. 24th, 2014 04:13 am (UTC)
Also I still don't understand how Eleven fed the sun his memories and still retained said memories.

Yes, that had occurred to me as well. And it's odd, but there are things, even within the completely, cheerfully balderdash science of Doctor Who, that just hit my buttons, and make me rant against the pure stupidity of things. This one could have benefited from a rewrite or three.
clocketpatch
Aug. 24th, 2014 05:54 am (UTC)
*raises hand*

I'm not a fan of Rings of Akhaten either. Firstly, I can never manage to spell the name right without checking it five times (never a good sign), and secondly...

It's just a hot mess. I like the reference to Susan. I don't like the Doctor's random preaching about science being better than faith (I nearly turned it off, I was so affronted). I did enjoy the Doctor giving up his memories and the ridiculous bit where Clara saves him with a leaf (I enjoyed the entire leaf plot quite a bit, actually), but then I thought that this episode was setting up for a series where Eleven was amnesiac...

and then I was vastly disappointed when this did not come to pass. It would've been a not good episode without that disappointment, but with it? Blech. It's like Time of the Doctor trouncing on all of the potential arcs set up at the end of the 50th.
kaffyr
Aug. 24th, 2014 10:52 pm (UTC)
It's just a hot mess.

Yup. And you're right about all the wasted opportunities and story fake-outs, the memory thing being the one that stood out so much for me.

I haven't seen the " ... of the Doctor" episodes again yet, so I need to rewatch them carefully.
flowsoffire
Aug. 24th, 2014 06:00 am (UTC)
Yay for appreciating Cold War more now :) Rings of Akhaten… I found myself liking that one without really knowing why, too, but god, that plot is a mess. XD Random sentinel villains that are just there to look scary, plus all the things you pointed out, plus the resolution… ahem. It's Clara's first travel and we get to see her with Merry, so I still like, but purely rationally speaking… It's hard to defend ;) (The first time I watched it I also had a massive River feels moment because of the song theme and knowledge theme and sacrificed little girl and "The song is over", it made me churn up very poor meta XD That helped staying entranced. But an episode can't stand on just symbolism.)
kaffyr
Aug. 24th, 2014 10:50 pm (UTC)
Oh my goodness, I'm so glad to know someone else who can see how awful it is, and still have some sort of irrational affection for it!!

And you're so right about not being able to stand on symbolism alone.
flowsoffire
Aug. 25th, 2014 06:11 am (UTC)
*high fives* ;)

Yep… we write/read/love meta about the show, but the show itself isn't meta, lol.
kaffyr
Aug. 25th, 2014 01:23 pm (UTC)
Well, I'd argue that when it comes to making a show, a showrunner and writer can make judicious and sparing use of meta-commentary, or self-referential ingredients. However, they need to be used as spices and not as the main ingredient.
flowsoffire
Aug. 25th, 2014 03:55 pm (UTC)
Completely agreeing with that… (And I love that icon!)
kaffyr
Aug. 25th, 2014 04:03 pm (UTC)
Feel free to gank the icon - the credit goes to the inimitable sallymn, whose work I greatly admire.
flowsoffire
Aug. 25th, 2014 04:18 pm (UTC)
Will do, thanks! :) I really like her icons, too :) (And found a ton more to snag on your page ;P)
kaffyr
Aug. 25th, 2014 04:26 pm (UTC)
Heh ... spreading the icon love; that's me!
flowsoffire
Aug. 25th, 2014 05:02 pm (UTC)
Same here! ^_^ Icons ftw!
(Anonymous)
Aug. 24th, 2014 08:57 am (UTC)
90% sure Akhaten is a planet: there's light reflecting off it at the start, suns don't have rings, they spend the entire episode staring straight at it, it's slightly more plausible that a planet and its rings are surrounded by an artificial air bubble than an entire star, and so long as the mass still exists the system will be fine. Clara may have decimated their tourism industry though. At least the presence of air is consistent, that they can breathe and the singing transmits etc.



I get the same thing, by the way, with my opinion changing drastically when I actually rewatch things.
kaffyr
Aug. 24th, 2014 10:46 pm (UTC)
Oh, I can no-prize and fanwank a lot of things about the episode - and that's the thing; I shouldn't have to immediately go there in my head; I should be able to enjoy it without having to do so much of the superstructure work for the author. (It's fun to do a little, because we all want to take part in some world-building from time to time. But the amount that I had to do with that story was so hefty that I couldn't enjoy the story; I spent all my time shoring up sagging walls, and looking fearfully at rotting timbers and suspect roofing, as it were.)
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